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    Honda Could be Committing a Sin with the New Civic Type R



    The upcoming Honda Civic Type R will reportedly offer a continuously variable transmission (CVT) as an option.

    The new comes to us from CivicX, citing a report in the November issue of CAR magazine, which includes an interview with senior Honda staff Mirsuru Kariya, Daisuke Tsutamori and Katsushi Inoue. Kariya is better known as the head engineer for the Civic line, while Tsutamori assumes the role of head designer. Inoue is the head of Honda in Europe, so the report seems to have credible sources.

    In the interview, the three discuss some details on the 2018 Honda Civic Type R, which is heading to North America for the first time. Some things that have been confirmed is a limited-slip differential, a lower center of gravity compared to the standard Civic, and it will come in front-wheel drive only.

    But most surprising is that accompanying the six-speed manual transmission will be a CVT that is said to be optimized for low-end acceleration.

    Some may feel disappointed that Honda is opting for a CVT instead of a dual-cutch unit for its Type R, but CVT technology has come a long way and we’ll have to keep an open mind to see how it performs if and when it does arrive. The Type R has traditionally been exclusively available with a manual transmission, so the fact that an automatic is even being considered is sure to be seen as sacrilegious to many automotive enthusiasts.
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    I mean, shouldn't the CVT, if done correctly, be faster than the standard? It can stay right in the powerband permanently.

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    Absolutely. Without having to release the accelerator and trigger the waste gate, the CVT will stay in boost consistently.

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    very interesting indeed, this will just bring in more sales from non MT drivers, I personally wouldn't buy a CVT in that car, shifting that baby is all the fun, but that CVT will sell, there is definitely a market for it.

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    I dont mind if the type R is available with an AT. Its just smart to expand the market for this car so that people who want a fast car like the type R is supposed to be but can't drive MT will still be able to buy it. However, I don't think the AT option should be CVT it should be a more traditional 6 or 7 speed DCT like they use in acuras.
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    I'm curious to see how much power the cvt will be able to handle once people start throwing mods on the car. Only time will tell...
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    Sure, an AT of some sort should be available. It's not like anyone will have a gun held to their head to buy it. Unless RC is the salesman.
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    SMH.... I just don't understand the logic behind AT in a sports car. Owning and driving a sports car should come with greater responsibility and exclusivity than the masses of dimwits driving A to B.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I have much greater respect for someone driving an Si or even an R18 MT, than a Lambo, Porsche, or Ferrari with an AT. Any schmuck with $100,000 can buy a sports car with AT and "be fast". I have NO respect for that.

    The true spirit of racing and fast cars is found in MT.

    Paddle shifters are a lame attempt to regain the "sporty factor" and controlling of ones vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civi9 View Post
    SMH.... I just don't understand the logic behind AT in a sports car. Owning and driving a sports car should come with greater responsibility and exclusivity than the masses of dimwits driving A to B.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I have much greater respect for someone driving an Si or even an R18 MT, than a Lambo, Porsche, or Ferrari with an AT. Any schmuck with $100,000 can buy a sports car with AT and "be fast". I have NO respect for that.

    The true spirit of racing and fast cars is found in MT.

    Paddle shifters are a lame attempt to regain the "sporty factor" and controlling of ones vehicle.

    Hate to sound so negative, but I feel passionate about this.
    I completely agree with you. The other day I was waiting in a parking lot for my wife who was getting us some food (I was waiting with the dog in the car) and a guy got into his loud Camaro SS next to me with a rumbling exhaust that sounded aftermarket. As he pulled away relatively quickly onto the street I clearly heard that it was an automatic and I shook my head. A loud exhaust on an AT just sounds stupid IMO.

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    Saw this link earlier today:
    http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/20...ormance-specs/
    320 HP, with MT, in 2019. Yet another varying story.

    Honestly, when I bought my Si in 2013, I had dealers telling me the type R was coming out the following year.
    I stopped believing anything anyone said about the type R after that. I'll believe it when I see it, and it better have an MT option, otherwise people are going to be doing MT swaps and hurting their fingers. And that will be on Honda.
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