VSA and ECON effect on mpg and power R18
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    VSA and ECON effect on mpg and power R18

    I have been experimenting with the VSA and ECON to see what happens. I will be updating with numbers as I see them under different conditions. So far I have seen some promising results with better mpg and better shifting with both off . I noticed more timing but the weather is really cold and by the end of the week it should warm up. I started the car today to move it to shovel and the short fuel trims were low but climbed to the long term fuel trims. Before it would just start at the long fuel trim when it warmed up enough to operate which is different. I have noticed a few degree of timing added when I turned off the VSA and firmer shifts almost chirping the tires. I am expecting my fuel trims to lean out and seeing more timing over all conditions which means its more efficient.

    I use BP premium and regular Honda bulk 0w20 oil. I have a lifetime with 73 fillups of 40.1 mpg and the best of 48.9 twice in the summer all with the ECON and VSA on.
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    I look forward to seeing your results.Can we post VSA questions about power delivery here also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTMONKY View Post
    I look forward to seeing your results.Can we post VSA questions about power delivery here also?
    Yes and any results you may notice when you experiment.
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    We all know what the VSA/Traction control can do by design but what affect does it have when its not doing what its designed to do?Full traction situations and so on.It would be interesting to somehow monitor the engines AFR and timing with the VSA turned on then the same turned off.Looks like Im gonna have to hook up my Scan Gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTMONKY View Post
    We all know what the VSA/Traction control can do by design but what affect does it have when its not doing what its designed to do?Full traction situations and so on.It would be interesting to somehow monitor the engines AFR and timing with the VSA turned on then the same turned off.Looks like Im gonna have to hook up my Scan Gauge.
    I have a Ultra Gauge and I do not AFR directly but do get fuel trims, and O2 voltage. I also see the throttle position with 2 inputs throttle pedal and throttle body. The throttle body can be open compared to the throttle pedal being pushed. I noticed that with premium gasoline will require less pedal but the throttle will open as conditions are needed.
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    Oops I meant Ultra Gauge
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTMONKY View Post
    Oops I meant Ultra Gauge
    I thought you had a UG. I just wish it had some logging so it would be easier to compare.
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    Silver recently I have noticed that my MPG's have been improving with half a tank left! It's happened with the last 3 consecutive tanks using the same gas and everything. Most of my driving is highway I would say 70/30.

    I tried turning off the VSA and I did notice a difference the car is definitely a lot more "peppier" shall I say. I only turn the ECON on when I'm driving on the highway for an extended period of time and I have the A/C on and it definitely helps with MPG's when used on the highway (I can't say about the city since I don't use it in the city).

    Just what I have noticed folks.


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    I just want to add I will be leaving the VSA on when driving on snow or ice and the econ does work better in the city than highway. I also noticed the engine sounded different and I cant wait for the weather to warm up. Its 0 out right now.
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    I do the same in the snow the VSA really makes a difference.But my Econ is always off maybe I will leave it in for a tank or 2.


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