[moe776]

Brand new Pads & Rotors, but it sounds like some metal on metal noise upon full stop! I took it back apart, inspected the pads, the noise went away for an 1hr and came right back! Its driving me crazy, it happens 90% of all full stops. Anyone else have this issue and a solution?

I first thought it was my calipers, So changed both of them, brakes are bled, and I really don't know what else it could be!

 

[jn2k108]

Pebble stuck in brake shield. Won’t know y less you have video or audio


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[moe776]

I'm going to take it apart today again, I will update

 

[scottyrocks]

Did you use the new springs that should have come with the pads, or did reuse the old ones?

 

[moe776]

All new hardware used. I really thought it was a sticky caliper so i changed both calipers 7 months ago. The pads fit in tightly. But I still think they might be moving a tiny bit. Enough to make that noise for sure.

 

[RedRocket]

Did you address the caliper pins? I've always either replaced or cleaned mine, and lubed them up. Just something that sometimes may go overlooked. Also super obvious but sometimes shops install pads facing the wrong way so still worth mentioning.

 

[moe776]

Yes i did. They are fine. Smooth. No issues. I just took it apart again. Pads & rotors still look brand new. I adjusted the hardware a bit. Bent into better position. Squeeking is still there but the grinding noise went away. The pads are not loose aswell. This is driving me crazy. I door dash all day so im sure itll come back maybe in 20 min or 2hrs

 

[Beeshabo]

Did you start hearing this after installing your new pads/rotors?
Or did you begin to hear the noise which is why you got new pads/rotors?
Also, how long have you been driving with the new pads/rotors?

 

[moe776]

So when i first purchased the car i heard it. Then i changed the brakes. I chang brakes 4x so far. Still there. On some days its worse then others. Which so weird. It feels like the pad is not sitting right. But it is. I thought it was the pads retaining clips. Hondas design is stupid on these to begin with. When i took it apart today I noticed the brake shield was 2mm away from the rotor. So i pushed it back further. And then the clips i adjusted and bent them into better shape to go around the groves of the bracket.

 

[Beeshabo]

Your first mistake was, what we call, launching the parts cannon.

It was very unnecessary to have changed your brakes 4x if the first time didn't solve the issue.

To further help you, an audio or video clip of the sound would really help.

 

[moe776]

i changed my brakes 4x because I Door dash 7 days a week, and I go through brakes a lot! especially when im zipping through traffic! I changed the calipers because I was desperate, I didnt know what else would need to be changed, Earlier today I checked the left front wheel, everything seemed normal, took the pads out, and back in, smooth, I noticed the hardware that comes with the brake pads are either too big or too small, and literally sitting 1mm from the rotor. I adjusted the fitment on the caliper bracket, and drove, 30 minutes later the grinding sound is back, but now it coming from the RIGHT side, so this evening I tore the right side apart, the hardware was literally rubbing the inside of the rotor, I adjusted it as much as I could, noticed the brake pads fit much tighter, a little too tight, so I adjusted more, and now I think im good to go, Unforunately during this process, I dropped the ratchet on my phone and broke the F out of my screen, im switching out phones right now and heading back out for the night! I have high hopes this was the issue, makes sense you cant hear it at higher speeds because of engine/road noise and only at low speeds.... but lll keep you guys updated once my phone is done switching everything over! Thx guys!

 

[RedRocket]

I take it these pads haven't been OEM? The OEM clips can be bought by themselves, like $10 apiece. Not sure if that would help. Also, interesting that the upper and lower caliper pins are different from each other. I'm not sure what kind of problems could be caused by mixing them up though.

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[moe776]

Last night the noise came back, I drive approx. 250 - 300 Miles daily. Now the grinding seems to be coming from the front Passenger side, I will look into the pins again when I remove it, i'll try to take a video of the problem tonight.

 

[Beeshabo]

Yeah, we need an audio clip.

 

[jn2k108]

Pebble stuck in brake shield. Won’t know y less you have video or audio


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Need video and audio


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[Allmotor]

Make sure you are getting the correct pads. Recently ran into this issue on a friends car he has a ex and was given lx/dx pads.
They did fit the in the calliper carriers but were overall smaller.

The hardware also was not the correct fit .

it did fit after some persuasion but would bind.

 

[moe776]

okay so i went to make an audio clip of the noise, no dice! you cant hear anything but the road and my keys giggling as I'm hitting the brakes!
But what I had some downtime and what I did was put it in reverse. give it an aggressive push on the accelerator, and I Definitely heard something "move" a bit. put it in drive and the noise was gone after braking, as If I never had the issue EVER! smooth breaking all the way to 0mph. 10 minutes later, it was back... so I have come to the conclusion that something not in the actual brake system is loose! Could an AXLE cause this pain? or maybe a messed up engine or transmission mount? Im thinking maybe the engine and transmission are moving slightly but I wouldn't think it would create such havoc? If i take it to the dealer they're going to charge me up the arse to tell me what the issue is.

When i bought this car (got it for a great price) the car was in a slight front end fender bender, nothing major just needed to change the A/C condenser. The son that drove it mostly used to think it was a great idea to downshift the automatic transmission from D to D3, 2, and unfortunately 1! to the point where first gear felt like a Noob learning to drive manual, it got so bad the car would actually stall and turn off after 3 months of purchase date. i ended up finding a transmission with 10k on it basically brand new for 200 and got it put in asap! Car drives brand new, except for the brakes! :[

 

[Mneira1327]

Might be worth mentioning but make sure you properly clean and grease where pad makes contact (example: pad tabs, back of pads where they touch calipers). Also when pushing in brake piston in make sure to release the air in brake line. This is also a good time to flush out old brake fluid with new one. Happy fixing.

 

[jn2k108]

Axles won’t make noise unless they’re so bad that it vibrates under acceleration.

You said you’ve isolated the noise to the right front.

We definitely need audio. Have someone record outside of the car


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[JJreal]

Those pads are not loose enough in the slider clips. The little springs push the pads away from the rotors after you take your foot off of the brake normally. Because the pads are tight, they don't retract away, that is what is causing your noise. I would take the caliper C bracket off, remove the clips, file the metal down underneath the clip area, and wire wheel the C bracket also, replace the clips or mini wire wheel them clean, shiny clean, with no debris. Those pads should be moving back & forward loose with no resistance, use a clean slider grease. I don't know what your mileage is, but my long-gone 1990 Acura Integra, use to make the same noise. Provided your pins are well lubed & no tears in your pin boots with everything else good, that should work for you, best regards.