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Thought the extended service contract/extended warranties had to be purchased either AT the time of sale or within 30 days.
Service contracts are just another money changing scheme designed to separate you from your money. Their purpose is to be a "profit center" not a "cost center."
And, yes they are typically sold at point of sale.
That is so the (high) cost can be folded into the purchase price and financed.
There's a reason they don't offer monthly payments on the service contract policy...

Service contracts are typically provided by a 3rd party. Not the manufacturer of the product; some of the larger dealer groups had their own contracts. Don't know if that's still true.

Service contracts are always negotiable; be it for parts covered, time or mileage covered and of course price.

Service contracts are like any other insurance policies they can be obtained almost anytime, cost and coverage considered.
 

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Just wanted to post some additional info to see if anyone has seen this or has any ideas. Another thing I occasionally notice is that when I am coasting at low speed, such as approaching a red light, and then lightly tap the gas, for example if the light turns green before I come to a complete stop, I sometimes get a "Clunk" or "Thud" from the transmission. As I am thinking about it, I'm thinking that the lock-up torque converter may be attempting to engage at an inappropriate time (which may be related to my other issue of the occasional jerkiness when going low speeds in a parking lot). Something like this happened with my older car (Ford Escort ZX2), and it turned out to be a bad speed sensor. I guess the transmission was thinking that the car was traveling faster than it was and engaging the lock-up when it shouldn't have.

I'm wondering if the same thing could be going on here, or maybe something similar, such as an issue with the throttle position sensor. Note that this only happens occasionally, there are no warning lights on, and nothing abnormal in the readout of the vehicle's speed (all of which was also the case with my ZX2). Maybe it's just an occasional glitch that is normal, but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks. I'll probably have the dealer run a diagnostic when I bring it in soon for an oil change, but the more information that I have ahead of time, the better.
 

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Just wanted to post some additional info to see if anyone has seen this or has any ideas. Another thing I occasionally notice is that when I am coasting at low speed, such as approaching a red light, and then lightly tap the gas, for example if the light turns green before I come to a complete stop, I sometimes get a "Clunk" or "Thud" from the transmission. As I am thinking about it, I'm thinking that the lock-up torque converter may be attempting to engage at an inappropriate time (which may be related to my other issue of the occasional jerkiness when going low speeds in a parking lot). Something like this happened with my older car (Ford Escort ZX2), and it turned out to be a bad speed sensor. I guess the transmission was thinking that the car was traveling faster than it was and engaging the lock-up when it shouldn't have.

I'm wondering if the same thing could be going on here, or maybe something similar, such as an issue with the throttle position sensor. Note that this only happens occasionally, there are no warning lights on, and nothing abnormal in the readout of the vehicle's speed (all of which was also the case with my ZX2). Maybe it's just an occasional glitch that is normal, but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks. I'll probably have the dealer run a diagnostic when I bring it in soon for an oil change, but the more information that I have ahead of time, the better.
I’ve had that problem too. It’s like it bucks in certain speeds.


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Just wanted to post some additional info to see if anyone has seen this or has any ideas. Another thing I occasionally notice is that when I am coasting at low speed, such as approaching a red light, and then lightly tap the gas, for example if the light turns green before I come to a complete stop, I sometimes get a "Clunk" or "Thud" from the transmission. As I am thinking about it, I'm thinking that the lock-up torque converter may be attempting to engage at an inappropriate time (which may be related to my other issue of the occasional jerkiness when going low speeds in a parking lot). Something like this happened with my older car (Ford Escort ZX2), and it turned out to be a bad speed sensor. I guess the transmission was thinking that the car was traveling faster than it was and engaging the lock-up when it shouldn't have.

I'm wondering if the same thing could be going on here, or maybe something similar, such as an issue with the throttle position sensor. Note that this only happens occasionally, there are no warning lights on, and nothing abnormal in the readout of the vehicle's speed (all of which was also the case with my ZX2). Maybe it's just an occasional glitch that is normal, but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks. I'll probably have the dealer run a diagnostic when I bring it in soon for an oil change, but the more information that I have ahead of time, the better.
This exact thing happened to me today. I have changed the trans and 4wd oil in my HRV. It's been cold and rainy that changed to snow. I had a full car and drove the same route from the airport to my house. Today zero issues going to work but on the way home I noticed the bucking at slow speeds and driveline clunking. It was 25 degrees warmer so I am sure it's because of high loads when it was cold and the ecu was adjusting because it was warmer since last shut down. I just went full throttle when getting on the hwy and no more issues. MPG went up too.

If it continues I will reset the ecu. Winter gas might have something to do with this. I use premium so some of the stations I go to might not have winter gas yet. Just make sure the tank is full when resetting the ecu.
 

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around here silver, they start changing over to winter blend in early october. i'd think all your stations would have the full winter blend in their storage tanks by now.

i've experienced similar clunking, and it happens at low speeds and when i 'tap' the gas pedal. i chalk it up to the throttle position sensor gets a signal that i have 'floored' it and it starts to send the signal to the driveline, then in 1/1000th of a second later, the signal is not that i'm flooring it, so the CVT is confused. i've got 103,xxx miles on my car....and the CVT is working fine. now that i say that......
 

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around here silver, they start changing over to winter blend in early october. i'd think all your stations would have the full winter blend in their storage tanks by now.

i've experienced similar clunking, and it happens at low speeds and when i 'tap' the gas pedal. i chalk it up to the throttle position sensor gets a signal that i have 'floored' it and it starts to send the signal to the driveline, then in 1/1000th of a second later, the signal is not that i'm flooring it, so the CVT is confused. i've got 103,xxx miles on my car....and the CVT is working fine. now that i say that......
That's exactly when I experience it too. I'm almost at 66,000 miles with no problems so far.
 

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around here silver, they start changing over to winter blend in early october. i'd think all your stations would have the full winter blend in their storage tanks by now.

i've experienced similar clunking, and it happens at low speeds and when i 'tap' the gas pedal. i chalk it up to the throttle position sensor gets a signal that i have 'floored' it and it starts to send the signal to the driveline, then in 1/1000th of a second later, the signal is not that i'm flooring it, so the CVT is confused. i've got 103,xxx miles on my car....and the CVT is working fine. now that i say that......
Around here there is a 2 step progress to winter gas. Premium takes longer because they might not get winter gas till late January. I don't think they go full winter gas with premium because it's already vaporizes better than regular and is part of the reason I get great mpg. I did not have any issues and power after the other day and mpg has never been better with my R18. It was actually the first time that happened since driving the HRV so I know it's can be an issue.

I agree it's a throttle control issue but it's also a tune problem based on temperature and barometric conditions.
 

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Went for a pretty long drive around town today, with quite a bit of slow-speed driving. I started noticing the sort of bucking sensation notated above. So, after stopping at one of my destinations and then getting back on the road, I switched off the Econ mode (I have usually been driving with it on), and that solved it, at least, so far. It's still a little touchy at low speeds, but not like before. I had noticed that the Econ mode seems to make a difference before, and now, I have tested it again.

It seems like our Econ mode is more like an "economy-sport" mode, because the CVT really does seem more responsive with it on, which is one of the reasons I usually drive with it on. But at low speeds, it's too responsive, and I guess it's doing whatever it can with the pulley ratios and the lock-up torque converter to squeeze every mile out of a gallon of gas. I guess there could still be a sensor issue, and if not the throttle position sensor, then I'd guess a speed sensor -- specifically (as I've read that the transmission has an input and an output speed sensor) the input speed sensor, as I would think that if the output one was bad, then my speedometer would give erratic readings -- unless there's another dedicated speed sensor just for the speedometer.

Maybe it's best to use Econ mode for general cruising and highway driving, and to turn it off for city driving. Is there any harm in switching the Econ mode on or off while driving? Or should it only be done right after starting the vehicle or when the vehicle is stopped?
 

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mines off and on depending if i'm in the city, highway or hilly area.

never an issue so far with the 103,XXX miles.
 

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mines off and on depending if i'm in the city, highway or hilly area.

never an issue so far with the 103,XXX miles.
I'm in Pittsburgh and they just switched over 1/2019. Just filled up and noticed that with ECON OFF, my iMid display was reading around 22mpg & holding steady. Switched ECON to ON and almost immediately, the figure started to rise (it's up to 26.9 now). Intermittent cold weather here.
 

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2015 Civic #1, I bought brand new off the truck now has 50K miles.
2015 Civic #2, I bought used, and I added 8K miles to it.
No CVT issues. Some random quirks as mentioned above. I did a CVT fluid drain/fill twice on both cars. Overall, I'm happy with it. Great car for my driving style and commute.
 

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2015 Civic bought brand new with 9 miles on 2/1/15, now has 70k miles on it, only done one CVT fluid/drain 35k miles ago and literally no CVT issues...I'll most likely have another CVT fluid change coming up in a couple months.
 
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