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Hello! I'm going to look at a couple of Si's at the Honda dealer in town on Monday. I've always been interested in the Si and have thought about buying one as a good compromise of fun/practicality in a commuter car. I was going to hold off and see what changes they're making for the 2013 models, but I've decided that I'll take the chance. I've never owned a Honda before but I've always admired them from a quality and engineering standpoint. For a long time I've been agonizing over the Si vs. GTI debate. However I just am not willing to "roll the dice" with VW reliability in a car that I intend to depend on for around 8 years/200K miles.

If I decide to buy, I still have to decide if I want the coupe or sedan. I always prefer coupes vs. sedans....except for the 8th and 9th gen Si....for some reason I go back and forth and usually find I think the sedan looks better. The roofline of the 9th gen coupe is just shaped funny. I also have to decide on navigation or not. Not that really want to pay for the factory nav, but I think the non-nav unit looks kind of strange.

So I'll be lurking around searching for info on things like maybe taking some of the "softness" out of the suspension that came with the 9th gen redesign, and maybe adding an aftermarket head unit If I do go non-navigation...what happens to the MID when you do that, and will the head unit jive with the factory amp/speakers, etc. Lots to learn!
 

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I agonized over the coupe/sedan debate myself. At the end of the day I liked having a sedan that was practical and powerful so I choose the black SI sedan and I am very happy with it. I also have a commute and I think the sedan is easier to commute in. Either way you cant go wrong its a great car. I love mine.
 

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I never owned a VW for 200k miles but I am on my third Si with more than that many miles.

Coupe rules.
 

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Welcome to the site...either way coupe or sedan I know you will be happy

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I traded in a '11 jetta for the si. I loved that car but didnt have enough pwr. If i had gotten the gli i would have kept it.

I wanted the gti but in 4 dr w a sunroof, it was like 28k w/o an extended warranty. I also prefer a sedan/ coupe as opposed to the hatch. But trust me, reliability aside, vdubs are bad @ss.

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Coupe or sedan they are both amazing cars! Whatever fits ur lifestyle best. Im 21 no kids, so I got the coupe. Now, if the girlfriend were to get pregnant ill make her buy a 4 door:) works good.lol

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Thanks guys. My commute is about 110 miles round trip. Thankfully I only do it 3-4 times a week, sometimes 1 or 2 more. Unfortunately some of it involves sitting in Boston traffic, which is brutal. I've been wanting a manual trans car again for soooo long. I know it's going to be a pain sometimes in those situations when I've had a long shift and I just want to veg out in my "happy place" mentally behind the wheel as I creep forward in gridlock, but my desire to have a manual again has outweighed that concern, lol. Besides, I have an '07 F150 that I usually drive on days when I know traffic is going to be bad, like Fridays.

As far as the practicality of the sedan vs. the coupe, well I have 12 and 10 year old boys, and a 2 year old daughter who is still in a child seat. On the surface it would seem the sedan is necessary. However, the coupe would actually do fine, as 99% of the time I'll be in the car alone. Obviously the kids are not all going to fit in the back seat together, assuming my wife is in the front passenger seat, but all of us in it together is extremely unlikely to ever happen. Whenever the whole family goes somewhere it's in my truck or my wife's '11 Expedition.

My current car which I'd be trading in on the Si is a 2003 BMW 525i. It's a great car, but has barely adequate power...my bad for not holding out for a 530 or 540 and a manual transmission. It has the Sport package so it handles very well, but overall it's just not an exciting car to drive. Now as it passes 90K miles, reliability concerns are setting in so I want to get out of it while it's still worth at least a little bit. My only real concern is that I'm going to get in the Civic and decide I just can't do something that small, but then the 525 isn't a very large car at all inside so it may not be a huge difference. If it is, my backup plan is a new Accord EX V6. Too bad you can't get the V6 with a manual trans in the sedan, and the coupe V6 is over $30G so that's out.
 

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I have the SI sedan but if I didn't have kids I would have gotten the coupe, imo it looks better. In gridlock traffic any manual is annoying but at least this one wont kill your left leg, its very easy to push in. Mpg since I got it 3k miles ago has been a total average of about 34mpg so that's awesome. The suspension really isn't that bad to me, it grips like a cart on rails, just leans a tad but has great ride comfort.

My grama has a 2011 Accord V6 sedan that I drive once in a while, that thing can really get up and go but its a heavy boat and the automatic is just as bad as the one in the civic. Constantly shifting and stupid grade logic bs. We've had tons of Honda's in the family still with absolutely zero mechanical problems. We just upgrade for the looks and new tech.

Good luck with your decision.
 

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OK I made the deal today! I bought a TW Si Coupe w/Nav. I pick her up at 1PM tomorrow. Can't wait! Oh, and man is that rev-hang just as annoying as everyone says.
 

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GREAT CHOICE! Hope its everything you expected! It took me about 40 minutes to make a final decision on the Si. I went in to look, left with another car under my belt :shrug:
 

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Man am I loving this car! My only real gripe, other than the rev hang, is that merging onto the highway is a little sketchy because of the coupe's tiny quarter window and roof C pillar. It will just take some getting used to, but I have to really get a good look back there rather than being able to glance back over the shoulder like you can in the sedan.
 

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Man am I loving this car! My only real gripe, other than the rev hang, is that merging onto the highway is a little sketchy because of the coupe's tiny quarter window and roof C pillar. It will just take some getting used to, but I have to really get a good look back there rather than being able to glance back over the shoulder like you can in the sedan.
Must say that was one of my complaints too! I usually just lean forward and look in the mirror to clear my blind spots now :p
 

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Another the reason the sedan is better!! lol

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LOL its one of those things you adapt to :)

Going from a 2003 Accord v6 sedan, i had nearly no blind spots...
 

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WOOHOO!! Congrats hope you enjoy the hell out of itt! :D
 

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Trade '12 Si coupe for '12 Si sedan??

This is long winded so bear with me here. When I bought my coupe in June I had intended to buy a sedan. But I laid eyes on the TW coupe and decided i had to get it.

Well, after a few months if driving it, I'm wishing I had gotten the sedan like I intended to.

1) The coupe headroom sucks for me. I like to sit kind of upright. To keep from scraping my head in the coupe I need to sit more reclined than I like. Even when I get positioned so I'm comfortable, I'll often still hit my head on large bumps.

2) The compromised visibility bothers me...specifically over the left shoulder when changing lanes. I drive through nasty freeway traffic a lot and often need to make quick decisions to move over a lane or not. It's hard to judge if I've got room or not because a personal habit if mine has always been to glance over my left shoulder through the rear side door window or rear quarter window to make sure the blind spot is clear. The coupes rear quarter window is too small and the B and C pillars block that view. I put a small convex blind spot mirror on the drivers side mirror but it too hard to trust and does no good at night.

3) Even though its not a primary family travel car, I find that I've had the kids in it a lot more than I figured I would, and even by compact coupe standards, the rear seat is tight and the access is even tighter.

4) My coupe is a 3/15 production car and is right in the middle of the VIN range for the oil consumption problem. My car does burn quite a bit, but not quite enough to meet what Honda considers excessive. So I'm afraid that as long as I own this car, I'll keep adding 2-3 quarts every 5k miles (completely unacceptable in my opinion, but not Honda's) until a few years from now consumption will finally worsen...but I'll be out of warranty and be paying for the piston&ring job myself. I'd imagine any new Si currently on a dealer lot was made after the affected range.

So I got a quote from one dealer of $19,750 for a base model Si sedan. Only problem (for me) is that it's SOP. Definitely an sweet color but I couldn't look at it every day. I would be taking a bit if a bath on trading in the coupe, as I owe about $18,500 on it and I believe clean trade in is about $17,500 but the $3400 off sticker on the sedan will soften that blow. Another dealer I'm waiting to hear back from has a CBP. I'm an old friend of the G.M. who ive contacted directly, so I'm hoping he may get me an even better deal. Not my first color choice either, because of the daunting task of keeping it clean, but I do think the CBP takes the look of the sedan to another level that the other colors don't. Still I'd rather AS or TW, especially to hide the rock chips and road rash that come with driving 25k highway miles a year.

Part of me says wait for the '13s....but then I'd be looking at full sticker price and likely not much of a finance rate. You get .9% on the '12s.

Another part of me says gonfor a '13 Accord Sport...but that will push my monthly payments out past the magical line in the sand drawn by the CFO...and I'm afraid that even though in a straight line it will give an Si a run for its money, that in the end the overall character of the car just won't be as fun as the Si, and I'll miss it.

I know this move to the Si sedan makes hardly ANY sense financially, but you only live once and if the sedan fits my needs better and makes me happier as I use it then that's worth a bit of financial loss to me.

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I'm glad to see someone else having the headroom problem in the coupe.. Some days it bothers me and other days it doesn't. I'm about 6ft and I notice it mostly when turning over my right shoulder to look behind me before backing up, I don't ever hit my head going over bumps.

I say do what makes you happy, you seem to have already justified it in your mind. I personally would just wait for the 13's to come out myself, I'm not a big fan of the front end of the 2012 sedans...even though they have grown on me a little.

Either way, can't go wrong with an Si.
 
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