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...the Si is meant to go fast. If you don't want to go fast why do you want an Si?

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No that's not what I meant. Of course the Si is more sportier and faster. I was talking about my current car, which is the civic ex. It's a commuter car, goes from point A to B. Not meant to go fast.
 

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Well said, I was holding back on being hard on the kid, but you summed things up nicely.

I graduated high school in 1984, and was raised upper middle class so my dad could have easily paid for a car/insurance/gas for me. He answer to me wanting a car was, go get a job and pay for the car/gas/insurance on your own. Now in my mid 40's I understand why he did that, and I'm very happy he did.

same here... i was told if i wanted a car to pay for it myself...and i did... taught me to respect what i have....
 

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Yeeeup I bought my first car last year 99 civic:D great car I was 17 years old
I'm 18 now I go to college I have a good job and a civic ex-l
My mom told me if I wanna good car yu gotta work for it. There are no shortcuts in life. So I worked hard and got what I wanted, sure a Si would've been nice but hey I still got my whole life ahead me
The only thing she helped me with was with her credit lol ha that's why yu gotta love your parents:)


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No that's not what I meant. Of course the Si is more sportier and faster. I was talking about my current car, which is the civic ex. It's a commuter car, goes from point A to B. Not meant to go fast.
Oh OK. Well if u can afford the price difference between the two without your parents having to pay any more then why not ask? Hell you could even offer to pay more than the difference so it costs them less.

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Seems like most of you like to bash me for taking things for granted and I'm not.
Disappointed in the fact that they didn't consult me and went ahead with the decision to get me this car.
Read those two quotes and you can see why people are "bashing" you, and honestly people have been really nice to you.


However, I still am looking for suggestions.
I gave you a great suggestion.

I traded in a 2010 LX for my 2012 Si, so lets use that as an example.

I cracked open Excel and did a spread sheet on the costs of my LX, fuel, insurance, monthly payment, amount owed etc. I did a ton of research on Si prices and trade in value of a 2010 LX with 14,300 miles.
Then I calculated what my monthly payment would be with an Si based on trade in amount and interest rate, added in extra fuel costs over the LX, and increased insurance rate (none since I'm 46, but I found that out before I bought the Si). This gave me a monthly cost on an Si vs the LX I had, I did all of this before I went to a dealer and talked to them about trading in the LX for an Si.

Since a lot of the costs for your car and payed by your parents, you need to do the homework and crunch the numbers, then show them a price comparison.
 

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Sometimes tough love is the best love ha Lmao

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Read those two quotes and you can see why people are "bashing" you, and honestly people have been really nice to you.




I gave you a great suggestion.

I traded in a 2010 LX for my 2012 Si, so lets use that as an example.

I cracked open Excel and did a spread sheet on the costs of my LX, fuel, insurance, monthly payment, amount owed etc. I did a ton of research on Si prices and trade in value of a 2010 LX with 14,300 miles.
Then I calculated what my monthly payment would be with an Si based on trade in amount and interest rate, added in extra fuel costs over the LX, and increased insurance rate (none since I'm 46, but I found that out before I bought the Si). This gave me a monthly cost on an Si vs the LX I had, I did all of this before I went to a dealer and talked to them about trading in the LX for an Si.

Since a lot of the costs for your car and payed by your parents, you need to do the homework and crunch the numbers, then show them a price comparison.
This.

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kind of a hassle having a new car at an early age. im 20 and when your young you wanna go everywhere including 'not so nice places'. if you drive where there are 'kids' they see a new car = they wanna **** with your car. i hate having to park far away from other people when i go to costco cuz of bad parkers. my last car was a 94 integra ls and it sucked, but it was awesome not really having to care about dents or shit and i could go anywhere i please. having the peace of mind that someone could crash into me (actually happened while i was on duty for a pizza place) and not care AS BAD as having a new car.

not bashing you, just letting you know how awesome it is to have an old used car, given that your brakes n shit works
 

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I agree with the other posters, you have your whole life ahead of you and plenty of time to get your si. If you want it badly enough, work hard, study hard, show your parents you are responsible and maybe in a few years you can trade it in and they will help you get an si. Civic was named car with the highest resale value so in a few years you can probably still get a good deal on a trade in. Have some patience, like they say, good things come to those who wait.
 

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I agree with the other posters, you have your whole life ahead of you and plenty of time to get your si. If you want it badly enough, work hard, study hard, show your parents you are responsible and maybe in a few years you can trade it in and they will help you get an si. Civic was named car with the highest resale value so in a few years you can probably still get a good deal on a trade in. Have some patience, like they say, good things come to those who wait.

Exactly, I wanted an Si when I got my 2010 LX, but I just started a new job and my savings account was drained. Two years and 3 raises later my job is great, my LX held it's value really well and I traded it in for my Si.
 

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Read those two quotes and you can see why people are "bashing" you, and honestly people have been really nice to you.




I gave you a great suggestion.

I traded in a 2010 LX for my 2012 Si, so lets use that as an example.

I cracked open Excel and did a spread sheet on the costs of my LX, fuel, insurance, monthly payment, amount owed etc. I did a ton of research on Si prices and trade in value of a 2010 LX with 14,300 miles.
Then I calculated what my monthly payment would be with an Si based on trade in amount and interest rate, added in extra fuel costs over the LX, and increased insurance rate (none since I'm 46, but I found that out before I bought the Si). This gave me a monthly cost on an Si vs the LX I had, I did all of this before I went to a dealer and talked to them about trading in the LX for an Si.

Since a lot of the costs for your car and payed by your parents, you need to do the homework and crunch the numbers, then show them a price comparison.
I agree with this. If you still can't convince them with this then just be happy with what you got. I don't know how your parents are but mine won't give me s*** if I was to ask them for a new car when I already got one. My parents gave me a car to drive only to school and school related things when I was 16 up till now, I'm 19. I've even asked for a cheap used car but they wouldn't give me one. When I went off to college I got to keep the car but I had to bring it back every weekend. I'd be happy if I got a 2012 civic all to myself. Now my parents agreed to help me buy a car (civic si) which is on order right now. I had to pay for the down payment and insurance, gas, maintenance and all that but they're paying the car's monthly payment so that's awesome! For me patience was the key, be patient and work hard and you'll have what you want.
 

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Given that if I were in your position I would stick with what I have, if you REALLY want the Si...

Keep the Ex for now, show your parents you can take responsibility for it. Keep it well maintained, clean, etc. Show them you're grateful for having it and appreciate that they bought it for you.
Come the end of the year when the 2013 refresh comes out, approach your parents with the price differences (insurance, gas, and payments, etc) for a trade in and tell them you will cover the difference where necessary.

That being said, I'm a student driving an LX (that I pay for myself) and am perfectly happy with it. Would I rather have the Si? Hell yes! But given that I'm only 20 and already am driving a brand new car, there's no way I'm complaining about the ride I have. The ride is only as boring as you make it. You can still have fun with the R18!


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buy for the car yourself...problem solved. If the parents are helping you pay they have the final say in everything especially if you are under their insurance and roof. I say wait it out til you are older and get the si later. Be glad you have a good car to drive to begin with.
 

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Then you should be very grateful to have a brand new civic, regardless of what model it is. My parents would have sold it immediately and bought me something embarrassing to drive if I told them I wanted to trade in my new car that they just bought for me for something better, not that they ever would have bought me a new car to begin with.


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same here my parents would have killed me if i did that!! when i turnt 16 my dad told me i was welcome to borrow his car but if i wanted my own i had to buy it and insure it myself under my name.. i remember working my ass off after school and weekends and evey cent went into buying my prelude and keeping it on the road!! that was in 06 when the 8th gen si had just come out and i wanted one sooooo bad!!! then in 09 i saved up enough for a good down payment on a lx coupe cuz i still couldnt afford the si lol then last november i bought my 12 si coupe what im trying to say i guess is its a graduated process you cant just hop into the car of your dreams... i mean no disrespect or hate i just mean you should learn to appricate the things you have you know. give the ex a chance!! there is sooo much non si love on here man like you said it was your first post!! take a look around join some of the crews!! another thing i dont thing anyone has mentioned is th potental that the r18 has and there are guys on here that do some really wild things with there non si civics and put the si's to shame!! think of the r18 as a blank canvas!! agian man i mean absolutly no disrespect!!! welcome to the sitte!
 

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I'm 20 paying for my own car, insurance, gas, and college. I'd be sooooooo happy if my parents payed for just 1 month. Be happy that they're paying for it and use the money that you have from your job to make it look nice. The way I see it, when you hit your late 20s to 30s, you'll most likely be buying a new one. Take what you have now and be grateful. They're paying for it anyways so you cant really complain... Just go to school and get that degree so you can afford whatever you want. I'm pretty sure that 2042 cviic si is gonna be way better haha.

Trust me on this one, when your friends ask who pays for everything, its the greatest feeling in the world when you say "I do."

And, not to bash on your current job, but if they're not paying you properly... why not look for a job that does. I know it's like a family business but you gotta spread your wings someday.
 

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When you grow up a little and can pay for it all by yourself, you can go knock yourself out with the Si. I drove around in a ford escort wagon during my high school and college yrs. when it was time for a new car when I was 20 and I was paying for everything myself my parents still told me which car I was going to get!!! Now at 25, with a successful job, my own house and money I treated myself to the Si. So be grateful and in time you can get your Si. But I don't think it's going to happen any time soon.
 

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My advice is be happy with what seems like a free BRAND NEW car. If you want to upgrade, get a job and pay for it yourself. Your an adult!
 
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