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Thanks RedRocket for all the information and guidance... I'm leaning toward getting the OBDII tool, mainly because of future costs associated with my next car, as well as probably having to get snows for my wife's Highlander. The programmable/NGS route seems to be the same price up front, and less hassle twice a yr, but if I get snows for the Highlander, it's either gonna be another $250 for that route, or $100 if I have the tool. (I can get regular tpms sensors for about $25 each for the Civic). And when I get my next car, whatever it may be, it starts all over again.... in the long run I think having the tool may be the least expensive route. Royally SUCKS that Honda doesn't allow storage for 2 sets of tires and allows you to just switch between them for winter/summer. Hey Honda, you guys listening?? Put out an update... should be a simple one... just like changing the clock.


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What a nightmare. Got 4 steel rims from tirerack.com and didn't notice till after they were put on the civic and I was tossing the boxes out that 1 of them is 16x7 with a 5-115 bolt pattern (vs the other 3 which are 16x6.5 5-113). Prob doesn't matter but it bugs me as I bought 4 of the same rims. And the 4 tpms "assembly"s I bought from hondapartsnow.com didn't mention you also need to buy the valve nut that holds the valve onto the rim separately. I get to the local tire shop and they tell me I'm missing pieces. Luckily they only charged me and extra $7 for each nut. They did the work for $90 and said the light/alarm will sound for a few minutes. I drove for about 20 minutes and its still on. ?? And to top it off, I can't get the plastic wheel covers on (also from tirerack)- I actually broke one with the rubber mallet as I was tapping it around the outside trying to get it on. Any advice on the rims being different sizes and the light on? They read out my summer IDs and winter Ids... each was a 10 digit numeric number even though the winter TPMS each had an 8 long hex number printed on them. ??
 

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TPMS is working... I started the car, flashing and chiming came on as usual, went around the car letting air out of each tire to about 15 lbs... then went around again setting them all to exactly 32.0 lbs. Flashing and chiming still was on. Took the car out for a ride. Within about a half a minute the flashing and chiming stopped. Whew! Guess I will have black rims though cuz these plastic hubcaps from tirerack just don't fit. I cracked another one trying to get it on. I'm 2 for 2. :-(

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I see that crafty dad mentioned that the sensors come with either a hexadecimal code or a decimal code- You can convert one into the other - meaning that each hex code has a corresponding decimal code. I get codes sent to me in both formats.
 

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So in order to run another set of wheels aside from the factory ones, I would need to buy 4 new sensors, take them to Honda to wake them (which will cost money?), then use the reset tool to program the new sensors?
 

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I'm trying to get new wider wheels and plan on using ONLY those wheels but this tpms stuff sounds like a pita and money wasted. The wheels I want are only $150/wheel but the tpms cost $145 for 4? Lame as hell.
 

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Or just transfer your pre existing sensors into your new wheel and possibly might get charged a service pack which is like 5$ a tire. Go visit Sams club! They are fully equipped to do this and actually stock our sensors for nowhere near 145$ a pop! I bought a sensor for my 8th gen for like 50$

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Every tire I look at though has that "tpms important info" and says the OE wont fit. Is that just a crock of shit? I would love to jsut re use my oem sensors to save some cash.
 

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The OEM TPMS sensors can be used on aftermarket rims.
 

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Every tire I look at though has that "tpms important info" and says the OE wont fit. Is that just a crock of shit? I would love to jsut re use my oem sensors to save some cash.
All depends on where the drop center on the rim is but I've installed hundreds of sensors in many after market wheels without hiccup! I don't see why it wouldn't unless you running like a 205/215 on 9 or 10 inch wide wheel. If running a stretched tire fitment it could very well pose a threat but only during mounting process... honestly I think it should work. Only reason I'd buy extra set of sensors would be if you plan on running winter/ summer set up or daily driven set up versus track set up but even then to switch them out I believe they'd have to be re learned each time.not sure if the ecu or tpms module can accommodate 8 sensors at one time.

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I have Volk GTU's the monitors dont fit, I'm looking to the bomb but, decided to call my local Townfair tire and ask what they do in this situation. They sold me a universal cradle and strap for the Oem sensors. it cost me $289.00 pricey but, no bomb and hey they are Volks so I figure go big or go home. the lug nuts were $300.00 I can spend that on not having a BOMB in the car.
 

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All depends on where the drop center on the rim is but I've installed hundreds of sensors in many after market wheels without hiccup! I don't see why it wouldn't unless you running like a 205/215 on 9 or 10 inch wide wheel. If running a stretched tire fitment it could very well pose a threat but only during mounting process... honestly I think it should work. Only reason I'd buy extra set of sensors would be if you plan on running winter/ summer set up or daily driven set up versus track set up but even then to switch them out I believe they'd have to be re learned each time.not sure if the ecu or tpms module can accommodate 8 sensors at one time.

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You can buy a set of alligator sensit brand sensors and I will program them for free to clone the existing sensors on your car. There is no relearning needed nor will you need to buy a tool to program anything. I have done this for a bunch of guys on this forum already. If you guys have any questions you can reach me at niceguysanti on gmail.
 

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You can buy a set of alligator sensit brand sensors and I will program them for free to clone the existing sensors on your car. There is no relearning needed nor will you need to buy a tool to program anything. I have done this for a bunch of guys on this forum already. If you guys have any questions you can reach me at niceguysanti on gmail.
Seriously, this was a great solution. No hassles and my sensors work great! Thanks again man.
 

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I wanna buy those tpms clones. Is it only N.G.S. that sells it? The ATEQ seems nice but I dont want it to be hanging on my OBD all the time
 

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ok...i'm thinking i understand this enough to screw it all up. the 2014 civic's (my model) don't have in the wheel tpms sensors...but some other sort of system that is attached to wheel speed sensors and some other techy stuff that i don't understand.

how do i go about putting on 1) 8th gen stock wheels with winter tires or 2) aftermarket wheels with winter tires without tpms issues. my last two cars, i just put on the winter tires and drove around with the idiot light on the dash. not a big deal to me as i religiously check tire pressures.

i went to the alligator sens-it site and got an education on how great their's are, but didn't see where to purchase them.

i'm getting ready to buy something for the winter...but, now, i'm all confused.

HELP....
 
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