[OJ Juicizzle]

So you're saying that there is something wrong with the old set and new set? What about rim damage? maybe the rim is bent and the guys at tire barn didn't notice.

This is plausible.
Short story:
There was a CRv with a noise in the rear when driving at certain speeds.
After verifying the noise.
I swapped 4 wheels/tires from a V6 Accord to the CRv and viola! The noise was gone!
So yes, tires even new ones could make noise.

Far as you will never know; ask them to put the other wheels/tires on your car...Then YOU will know for sure.

 

[Teeps]

Tires make noise.
The dealer told you they swapped different tires (wheels) and the noise was gone.
If that is true, that the noise is gone... not sure where to go, other than different tires.

Rim damage:
You said that rotating the tires (wheels) did not change the noise.
So, if a rim was damaged to the extent that it was making a noise.
The noise should have moved with the wheel/tire.

 

[pare_john]

Wow, this is a prime example of throwing money at a problem.

 

[fergy016]

Wow, this is a prime example of throwing money at a problem.

Tell me about it. I just went through this with suspension noise. It turned out to be a bad bushing in a rear control arm.

3x Alignments @ $100 each
Return shipping $26 warranty replacement
Replaced suspension with HFP kit $800

Now I can't unload the barely used Truhart shocks/struts with Eibach pro-kit that are just fine.

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

I'm not talking about road noise, I know that exists. I'm talking about a noticeable humming that almost sounds like an owl "whooooooooo" and makes the car vibrate slightly.
I'm going to tire barn today where i got the tires from and they are going to inspect the new tires. If they don't find anything, then i will break the tires in more and hope for the best..

Tires make noise.
The dealer told you they swapped different tires (wheels) and the noise was gone.
If that is true, that the noise is gone... not sure where to go, other than different tires.

Rim damage:
You said that rotating the tires (wheels) did not change the noise.
So, if a rim was damaged to the extent that it was making a noise.
The noise should have moved with the wheel/tire.

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

Yeah man it's holding me back from the mods i want to do... Frustrating!!!

Wow, this is a prime example of throwing money at a problem.

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

Thats crazy.. so you bought the truhart shocks/struts with eibach pro-kit to see if that worked and then it didn't so you went with HFP after the bushing was replaced?

Tell me about it. I just went through this with suspension noise. It turned out to be a bad bushing in a rear control arm.

3x Alignments @ $100 each
Return shipping $26 warranty replacement
Replaced suspension with HFP kit $800

Now I can't unload the barely used Truhart shocks/struts with Eibach pro-kit that are just fine.

 

[fergy016]

Thats crazy.. so you bought the truhart shocks/struts with eibach pro-kit to see if that worked and then it didn't so you went with HFP after the bushing was replaced?

1. Installed Truhart shocks/struts and Eibach pro-kit springs with SPC camber kit
2. Had alignment done.
3. After 1000 miles or so I started hearing sound in rear end and checked nuts/bolts and nothing was out of spec.
4. Replaced springs/struts and removed camber kit with HFP kit
5. Had alignment done as toe was way out. Found I needed the rear camber kit again in rear.
6. Reinstalled SPC camber kit in rear and had alignment done.
7. Removed SPC camber kit to send in for warranty exchange
8. Reinstalled SPC camber kit and had alignment done.

At least now the car rides awesome and doesn't have any odd noises!

 

[fergy016]

A wheel bearing usually changes with speed of the car. Some tires also sound different depending on tread pattern. Do you have a friend with a similar honda that you can switch wheels with just to confirm this theory?

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

wow, so what do you plan to do with the truharts and eibach

1. Installed Truhart shocks/struts and Eibach pro-kit springs with SPC camber kit
2. Had alignment done.
3. After 1000 miles or so I started hearing sound in rear end and checked nuts/bolts and nothing was out of spec.
4. Replaced springs/struts and removed camber kit with HFP kit
5. Had alignment done as toe was way out. Found I needed the rear camber kit again in rear.
6. Reinstalled SPC camber kit in rear and had alignment done.
7. Removed SPC camber kit to send in for warranty exchange
8. Reinstalled SPC camber kit and had alignment done.

At least now the car rides awesome and doesn't have any odd noises!

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

Unfortunately I am the only one I know that has a Honda/Acura. I bought this tire, posting link so you can see tread pattern:

TireBarn.com - BFGoodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S 215/45R17 19100M

I agree with views on the wheel bearing and it sounded like it was the bearing at first. I really wanted to confirm the theory but when they (Honda) called me to tell me what they did, the tires were already off the car. When I asked if I can go for a ride with the tech with the new wheels they said, "The mechanic has already spent three hours over the course of two days on the car. If you would like this to be done, we will have to add onto the hour's diagnostics fee ($125) in which we are well over the hour's time." At this point I felt like a jackass for asking... but oh well, Im taking it to tire barn where my warranty will cover the additional diagnostics.

A wheel bearing usually changes with speed of the car. Some tires also sound different depending on tread pattern. Do you have a friend with a similar honda that you can switch wheels with just to confirm this theory?

 

[mreggball]

I'm not really following the thread, but I have these tires and have no issues.


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[fergy016]

wow, so what do you plan to do with the truharts and eibach

They are in the for sale thread: http://www.9thgencivic.com/forum/sale-section/200977-2012-si-suspension-truhart-eibach-spc.html

 

[mreggball]

Unfortunately I am the only one I know that has a Honda/Acura. I bought this tire, posting link so you can see tread pattern:

TireBarn.com - BFGoodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S 215/45R17 19100M

I agree with views on the wheel bearing and it sounded like it was the bearing at first. I really wanted to confirm the theory but when they (Honda) called me to tell me what they did, the tires were already off the car. When I asked if I can go for a ride with the tech with the new wheels they said, "The mechanic has already spent three hours over the course of two days on the car. If you would like this to be done, we will have to add onto the hour's diagnostics fee ($125) in which we are well over the hour's time." At this point I felt like a jackass for asking... but oh well, Im taking it to tire barn where my warranty will cover the additional diagnostics.

The photo in that link doesn't look the comp-2 A/S.


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[OJ Juicizzle]

I remember chatting with you in another thread about what tires I should buy. I ended up with these. Thank you for your input.

I'm not really following the thread, but I have these tires and have no issues.


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[OJ Juicizzle]

Now that you mention it, I sure doesn't look like the tires we have they actually look like this :

https://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire/bf-goodrich/g-force-comp-2-a-s

The photo in that link doesn't look the comp-2 A/S.


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[mreggball]

Now that you mention it, I sure doesn't look like the tires we have they actually look like this :

https://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire/bf-goodrich/g-force-comp-2-a-s

Yup, that's the correct photo.

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

Update on steps taken so far:

1. Changed rear passenger side wheel bearing.
2. Rotated tires.
3. Changed other 3 wheel bearings.
4. Bought new tires.
5. Brought to Honda service department. Diagnosed as road noise from aggressive tread pattern.
6. Brought back to Tire Barn for inspection and alignment. Said tires are fine.
7. Brought to another mechanic. Diagnosed as road noise from aggressive tread pattern.

Bringing back to Tire Barn tomorrow and I'm going to get a different set of tires... Honda said when they swapped wheels and tires that the sound went away. Hopefully this works and stops the echoing howling noise.

 

[OJ Juicizzle]

I used the warranty for the BF Goodrich's and I was recommended Yokohama Tornante tires so that is what is on the car now. these tires are non direction and are not aggressive. The problem still exists. I still hear the noise... after the old tires and two brand new sets and all wheel bearings changed. and the search continues...

Update on steps taken so far:

1. Changed rear passenger side wheel bearing.
2. Rotated tires.
3. Changed other 3 wheel bearings.
4. Bought new tires.
5. Brought to Honda service department. Diagnosed as road noise from aggressive tread pattern.
6. Brought back to Tire Barn for inspection and alignment. Said tires are fine.
7. Brought to another mechanic. Diagnosed as road noise from aggressive tread pattern.

Bringing back to Tire Barn tomorrow and I'm going to get a different set of tires... Honda said when they swapped wheels and tires that the sound went away. Hopefully this works and stops the echoing howling noise.

 

[Teeps]

Still unanswered is what tires did the dealer put on that fixed the noise?