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I'll be buying an optima red top in the next year or so to replace my OEM battery.
If you're looking for a straight drop in red top, Optima doesn't make one OE size in red. It's only the yellow top that is OE size. D51R is the part number for it.
 
If you're looking for a straight drop in red top, Optima doesn't make one OE size in red. It's only the yellow top that is OE size. D51R is the part number for it.
even better! thank you sir!
 
you get what you pay for a battery definitely rule #1. when I worked @ advance auto we pushed the autocraft gold's because they really are the best product that johnson controls makes as far as the plate grid setup is very strong. I do hook up a float tender to our vehicles on occasion the temp overnight drops below the 30's so the battery is nice and "warm" with plenty of charge ready to go. if you watch with a volt meter on these newer gen honda's you'll see they do "charge" the battery very unusual and will generally report a failed alternator on many store test equipment.
 
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Ok so imma resurrect this thread.... Has anyone ran the Red Top Optima batteries? Its a step bellow yellow top but has pretty much the same capabilities of what I want (ability to re-charge from complete drain and still perform awesome). The price point is intriguing...$150ish. My Costco doesn't carry my battery so the cheapest other brands like napa etc range $100-$120. I've already went w the $120 and not impressed. It was a year old and couldn't recover after 1 drain. I don't want to go yellow at $220 bc I just don't feel I need all that since car has no extra electronics.
I'm most likely going to grab a red top just to see what the hype is about bc I need a battery that can handle drains here and there but I don't think it needs to be a yellow top, reading on the red top I feel that it will give me the edge I need.... I just wanted to see if anyone has used the Red Tops? Reviews?

Why do I drain the batt so much? Bc it's my gfs ride and she does things like leave her iPhone charging in the car or forget to turn off the car after she rolls the windows up. ???

*I will say that Costco prices are great and warranty is great. I used to roll w Costco batt but the last 2 only lasted just over the 3yrs and I don't feel like they recover very well after a good drain....or maybe that's just me?
 
Wasn't aware Optima had a red top for our cars. I've only come across yellow tops.
You are correct. Sorry all of course I shouldn't hav but i just assumed it was true since the 120 batt dealer told me to go look into red tops. Yes it's only yellow top from optima. Think I saw someone say they found some at 175ish so I'll just look into the best deal I can find on the yellows and just have to see for myself how I like their performance

I also don't know how tf I missed the comments stating this whole dilemma right above me!!! My bad i seriously didn't even see those last comments maybe I didn't go to the last page idk so lame on my part.
 
I just replaced my battery. It was still good but I wanted something with more reserve, cold cranking amps, quality, etc... Something more drive in worthy, so the drain on the battery from running the stereo through 2 movies doesn't hurt it as much.

The OEM civic battery is size 51R. The R means reversed polarity. The battery terminals are on one side of the battery. Put that side facing you and the positive (red) should be on the right hand side. A plain old 51 will have the positive on the left. Optima makes red tops and yellows in that size now so it's easy to get a good AGM battery replacement for our cars.

51 is basically the smallest size of common battery for cars. I wanted more reserve capacity for the stereo without the car running, so I went to the next step up. Size 35. Same height, same length, but about 1 1/2 inches wider. Size 25 is the same as 35 but the polarity is reversed. I'm not sure why they don't have a 25R or 35R like the 51. I don't know the meaning behind the size designations. 35 is a very common size.

I went for an Exide Edge battery. Exide is a huge battery manufacturer and many house brands of AGM batteries are just rebadged Exides. They are very well priced as well. Cheaper than an Optima or Stinger, and availability was much more common in my area. Even Costco sells them. The Exide Edge uses a graphite technology which gives it the same benefits as the spiral technology in the Optimas. It's pretty much the same quality as a Yellow Top, being a starting battery with drain characteristics for stereos and electronics. I haven't seen any negative reviews for the Exide, but lately Optima has been getting some negative publicity regarding their quality and reliability. Many "top 5 batteries on the market" lists include the Exide Edge, so it's a quality battery.

Just to compare, the original Honda 51R battery had 450 cold cranking amps. The Exide Edge 35 has 650. The reserve capacity isn't marked on the Honda battery but comparing Exide Edge, the reserve capacity at 25A for a 51R is 75min while it's 110min for the 35. Optima has pretty much identical specs. So there is a significant advantage to the larger battery.

Now for the installation. I removed the old battery, the plastic housing, and the plastic bottom tray. You can't reuse the plastic tray or the housing. The housing isn't required since the new battery is a high end AGM and doesn't require it. The original battery is just a normal flooded lead acid and has a chance to leake. The new battery just fits in between the 2 holes for the J bolts for the hold down. There is a little rubber mat that was originally on the bottom plastic tray and I put that under the new battery to give it some cushion from the steel of the battery shelf since you no longer use the plastic tray. If you try to use the plastic tray, the larger battery bulges it out against the mounting holes and the J bolts will no longer go in. I also flipped the orientation of the J bolts so they are on the outside of the mounting holes instead of the inside to accommodate the wider battery. I also purchased an adjustable plastic battery hold down. Just adjust it to the width of the new 35 battery and bolt it down using the original J bolts and nuts. It's a very tight fit but it does fit. I believe it would be the largest battery that is easily installed in the civic without any mods aside from not using the tray and getting a new wider hold down.

The only difficulty was trying to hold the J bolts and get the hold down mounted and tightened. The larger size of the battery makes for less room to get your fingers in. I ended up pre-installing the tie down to the J bolts with the nuts tightened just enough to hold it all together. That way I wouldn't drop the bolts into the engine compartment. Fit it into place and tighten it down. The first time I didn't do this and lost the J bolt in the engine compartment :(

Overall an easy upgrade and the best that can be done aside from installing auxiliary batteries in the trunk. I just have the Honda Premium 360W stereo so it's nothing huge. If I had bigger aftermarket amps I'd go the trunk route and just keep a 51R under the hood.
 
I just replaced my battery. It was still good but I wanted something with more reserve, cold cranking amps, quality, etc... Something more drive in worthy, so the drain on the battery from running the stereo through 2 movies doesn't hurt it as much.

The OEM civic battery is size 51R. The R means reversed polarity. The battery terminals are on one side of the battery. Put that side facing you and the positive (red) should be on the right hand side. A plain old 51 will have the positive on the left. Optima makes red tops and yellows in that size now so it's easy to get a good AGM battery replacement for our cars.

51 is basically the smallest size of common battery for cars. I wanted more reserve capacity for the stereo without the car running, so I went to the next step up. Size 35. Same height, same length, but about 1 1/2 inches wider. Size 25 is the same as 35 but the polarity is reversed. I'm not sure why they don't have a 25R or 35R like the 51. I don't know the meaning behind the size designations. 35 is a very common size.

I went for an Exide Edge battery. Exide is a huge battery manufacturer and many house brands of AGM batteries are just rebadged Exides. They are very well priced as well. Cheaper than an Optima or Stinger, and availability was much more common in my area. Even Costco sells them. The Exide Edge uses a graphite technology which gives it the same benefits as the spiral technology in the Optimas. It's pretty much the same quality as a Yellow Top, being a starting battery with drain characteristics for stereos and electronics. I haven't seen any negative reviews for the Exide, but lately Optima has been getting some negative publicity regarding their quality and reliability. Many "top 5 batteries on the market" lists include the Exide Edge, so it's a quality battery.

Just to compare, the original Honda 51R battery had 450 cold cranking amps. The Exide Edge 35 has 650. The reserve capacity isn't marked on the Honda battery but comparing Exide Edge, the reserve capacity at 25A for a 51R is 75min while it's 110min for the 35. Optima has pretty much identical specs. So there is a significant advantage to the larger battery.

Now for the installation. I removed the old battery, the plastic housing, and the plastic bottom tray. You can't reuse the plastic tray or the housing. The housing isn't required since the new battery is a high end AGM and doesn't require it. The original battery is just a normal flooded lead acid and has a chance to leake. The new battery just fits in between the 2 holes for the J bolts for the hold down. There is a little rubber mat that was originally on the bottom plastic tray and I put that under the new battery to give it some cushion from the steel of the battery shelf since you no longer use the plastic tray. If you try to use the plastic tray, the larger battery bulges it out against the mounting holes and the J bolts will no longer go in. I also flipped the orientation of the J bolts so they are on the outside of the mounting holes instead of the inside to accommodate the wider battery. I also purchased an adjustable plastic battery hold down. Just adjust it to the width of the new 35 battery and bolt it down using the original J bolts and nuts. It's a very tight fit but it does fit. I believe it would be the largest battery that is easily installed in the civic without any mods aside from not using the tray and getting a new wider hold down.

The only difficulty was trying to hold the J bolts and get the hold down mounted and tightened. The larger size of the battery makes for less room to get your fingers in. I ended up pre-installing the tie down to the J bolts with the nuts tightened just enough to hold it all together. That way I wouldn't drop the bolts into the engine compartment. Fit it into place and tighten it down. The first time I didn't do this and lost the J bolt in the engine compartment :(

Overall an easy upgrade and the best that can be done aside from installing auxiliary batteries in the trunk. I just have the Honda Premium 360W stereo so it's nothing huge. If I had bigger aftermarket amps I'd go the trunk route and just keep a 51R under the hood.
I have a Motomaster AGM that i'm sure is that Exide.. It's black with a blue top. It doesn't have problems starting the car even in those -30/-40 celcius we sometimes see.. It's a good battery!

Marko!
 
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I'll just keep it simple. My OEM lasted 5 years. I go to my Honda dealer, they put in a new, but larger Honda battery in 30 minutes, I pay them $100 and go home and forget about it. To me, that's a good deal with no worries or obsession.
 
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Perhaps the most important variable affecting battery longevity is the heat and cold temps. it's exposed to. My garage stays between 52 and 72 degrees at the extremes. The weather here in paradise doesn't get overly cold or hot. Humidity is another thing. If you live in Texas you will be buying a lot of batteries.
 
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Perhaps the most important variable affecting battery longevity is the heat and cold temps. it's exposed to. My garage stays between 52 and 72 degrees at the extremes. The weather here in paradise doesn't get overly cold or hot. Humidity is another thing. If you live in Texas you will be buying a lot of batteries.
Agree about temps and battery life.
Extremes of either and deep cycling, of the OEM battery, will shorten the battery life.
The OEM battery in my Honda Fit lasted 7 years. The first replacement (Honda OEM battery) failed internally after 3 years (open circuit between plates.) Just out of warranty, so, no joy from Honda.

The OEM batter in my Civic failed at around 3 years of service. Electrolyte leakage around the positive terminal.
Honda warrantied that battery, no cost to me.
 
Four 'what battery should I get?'-type threads merged and stickied.
 
Four months ago, I replaced my battery as a buddy of mine said the old battery was dragging. Decided to just get it over with.

I actually purchased a Duracell Ultra Gold battery from Batteries Plus Bulbs online.

The website actually gave me a discount code to buy online. I went to the store and they installed it for me, and they guys working there were pleasant to deal with.

I read somewhere that the Duracell batteries are manufactured by East Penn, so that gives me some peace of mind, as well as the 36 month free replacement, 65 month pro-rated warranty. This is the longest pro-rated warranty I've seen around.
 
Not for nothing, but I needed a battery for my Mustang, and got a recycled Interstate at my FLAPS for literally less than half the price of a new one.

Of course, I won't know how long it lasts for a while yet.
 
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Not for nothing, but I needed a battery for my Mustang, and got a recycled Interstate at FLAPS for literally less than half the price of a new one.

Of course, I won't know how long it lasts for a while yet.
What is FLAPS? Never heard of that one.
 
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